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		<title>By: lighthouse10</title>
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		<description>RE  &lt;br&gt;&quot;Killing off America’s manufacturing sector with cap-and-trade&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes Cap and Trade is wrong&lt;br&gt;- whether one is for or against emission control&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The issues are emission reduction and future energy supply.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Given the uncertainty of the effects of emission reduction on global&lt;br&gt;temperature - and given the expense of emission reduction - the key is&lt;br&gt;to engage in activites which&lt;br&gt;1. Are valuable in themselves.&lt;br&gt;2. Meet emission reduction targets with minimal business disruption and expense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sufficient first phase 2020/2030 emission reduction, for 2020&lt;br&gt;typically quoted at 15-20% reduction, is achieved by acting on&lt;br&gt;electricity generation (coal, gas) and transport (mainly automobiles)&lt;br&gt;alone, since these 2 sectors account for nearly 80% of CO2 emissions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This can be done with  emission tax (for cars, allowing free choice)&lt;br&gt;and emission limits for CO2  (for electricity generation), without any emission trading.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The focus on electricity and transport gives several advantages:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Local environmental benefit from less pollution of sulphur and all&lt;br&gt;else that&#039;s in the emissions, regardless of the less certain or&lt;br&gt;immediate global benefit from CO2 reduction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Electricity supply alternatives which together with improved grid&lt;br&gt;distribution gives better competition and keeps down electricity bills&lt;br&gt;for consumers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Transport alternatives (using electricity, hydrogen and other&lt;br&gt;energy sources), which give variety of choice and competition&lt;br&gt;advantages for consumers, additionally reducing the dependency on oil imports.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. No trade problems: Unlike Cap and Trade, which involves cement,&lt;br&gt;steel and other industries having to face imports from unregulated&lt;br&gt;countries, the here suggested electricity and transport changes are&lt;br&gt;not just more limited, but also largely local.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2020 (and again 2030), from then available evidence, either&lt;br&gt;1. There is increasing consensus that reduction attempts have no&lt;br&gt;value: In that case little has been lost, since the described changes&lt;br&gt;in electricity and transport industry carry their own benefit, or&lt;br&gt;2. Consensus remains that CO2 emission reduction should continue, in which case America is on track, &lt;br&gt;and may continue with more specific emission reduction efforts towards 2050 that extend electricity and transport measures, &lt;br&gt;and can involve other industries if necessary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Funding and Impact&lt;br&gt;Equity and long term loan finance can be used: Long term industrial&lt;br&gt;loans from financial institutions, particularly if federal/state&lt;br&gt;guaranteed, give low yearly interest repayments and lessen the effect&lt;br&gt;on electricity bills or transport cost.&lt;br&gt;The impact on the businesses is further lessened by the stability and&lt;br&gt;predictability surrounding the funding.&lt;br&gt;Since only electricity and transport are involved, other business&lt;br&gt;continues as usual and consumers and society in general are spared&lt;br&gt;expense and disruption.&lt;br&gt;This is even more obvious from having no energy efficiency regulation either.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Compare with&lt;br&gt;today’s all-encompassing Cap and Trade (emission trading) suggestions,&lt;br&gt;with unpredictability, expense, and needless disruption from normal&lt;br&gt;business practice on one hand, or unnecessary profiteering from free&lt;br&gt;allowance handouts with little actual emission reduction on the other&lt;br&gt;hand, together with extensive energy efficiency regulation on what&lt;br&gt;people can or can’t buy and use.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;Emission Policy Alternatives&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ceolas.net/#cce1x&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ceolas.net/#cce1x&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Introduction: The need - or not - to deal with emissions&lt;br&gt;The Overall Picture&lt;br&gt;Emission sources, land and ocean cycles, agriculture and deforestation&lt;br&gt;1. Direct Industrial Emission Regulation&lt;br&gt;Mandated reduction of CO2, monitored like other emission substances&lt;br&gt;2. Carbon Taxation&lt;br&gt;Fuel Tax -- Emission Tax&lt;br&gt;3. Emission Trading  (Cap and Trade)&lt;br&gt;Basic Idea -- Offsets -- Tree Planting -- Manufacture Shift -- Fair&lt;br&gt;Trade -- Surreal Market -- Allowances: Auctions + Hand-Outs --&lt;br&gt;Allowance Trading -- Companies: Business Stability + Cost -- In&lt;br&gt;Conclusion&lt;br&gt;4. Contracted CO2 Reduction&lt;br&gt;Private companies compete for contracts to lower CO2 emissions&lt;br&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE  <br />&#8220;Killing off America’s manufacturing sector with cap-and-trade&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes Cap and Trade is wrong<br />- whether one is for or against emission control</p>
<p>The issues are emission reduction and future energy supply.</p>
<p>Given the uncertainty of the effects of emission reduction on global<br />temperature &#8211; and given the expense of emission reduction &#8211; the key is<br />to engage in activites which<br />1. Are valuable in themselves.<br />2. Meet emission reduction targets with minimal business disruption and expense.</p>
<p>Sufficient first phase 2020/2030 emission reduction, for 2020<br />typically quoted at 15-20% reduction, is achieved by acting on<br />electricity generation (coal, gas) and transport (mainly automobiles)<br />alone, since these 2 sectors account for nearly 80% of CO2 emissions.</p>
<p>This can be done with  emission tax (for cars, allowing free choice)<br />and emission limits for CO2  (for electricity generation), without any emission trading.</p>
<p>The focus on electricity and transport gives several advantages:</p>
<p>1. Local environmental benefit from less pollution of sulphur and all<br />else that&#39;s in the emissions, regardless of the less certain or<br />immediate global benefit from CO2 reduction.</p>
<p>2. Electricity supply alternatives which together with improved grid<br />distribution gives better competition and keeps down electricity bills<br />for consumers.</p>
<p>3. Transport alternatives (using electricity, hydrogen and other<br />energy sources), which give variety of choice and competition<br />advantages for consumers, additionally reducing the dependency on oil imports.</p>
<p>4. No trade problems: Unlike Cap and Trade, which involves cement,<br />steel and other industries having to face imports from unregulated<br />countries, the here suggested electricity and transport changes are<br />not just more limited, but also largely local.</p>
<p>In 2020 (and again 2030), from then available evidence, either<br />1. There is increasing consensus that reduction attempts have no<br />value: In that case little has been lost, since the described changes<br />in electricity and transport industry carry their own benefit, or<br />2. Consensus remains that CO2 emission reduction should continue, in which case America is on track, <br />and may continue with more specific emission reduction efforts towards 2050 that extend electricity and transport measures, <br />and can involve other industries if necessary.</p>
<p>Funding and Impact<br />Equity and long term loan finance can be used: Long term industrial<br />loans from financial institutions, particularly if federal/state<br />guaranteed, give low yearly interest repayments and lessen the effect<br />on electricity bills or transport cost.<br />The impact on the businesses is further lessened by the stability and<br />predictability surrounding the funding.<br />Since only electricity and transport are involved, other business<br />continues as usual and consumers and society in general are spared<br />expense and disruption.<br />This is even more obvious from having no energy efficiency regulation either.</p>
<p>Compare with<br />today’s all-encompassing Cap and Trade (emission trading) suggestions,<br />with unpredictability, expense, and needless disruption from normal<br />business practice on one hand, or unnecessary profiteering from free<br />allowance handouts with little actual emission reduction on the other<br />hand, together with extensive energy efficiency regulation on what<br />people can or can’t buy and use.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />Emission Policy Alternatives<br /><a href="http://ceolas.net/#cce1x" rel="nofollow">http://ceolas.net/#cce1x</a><br />Introduction: The need &#8211; or not &#8211; to deal with emissions<br />The Overall Picture<br />Emission sources, land and ocean cycles, agriculture and deforestation<br />1. Direct Industrial Emission Regulation<br />Mandated reduction of CO2, monitored like other emission substances<br />2. Carbon Taxation<br />Fuel Tax &#8212; Emission Tax<br />3. Emission Trading  (Cap and Trade)<br />Basic Idea &#8212; Offsets &#8212; Tree Planting &#8212; Manufacture Shift &#8212; Fair<br />Trade &#8212; Surreal Market &#8212; Allowances: Auctions + Hand-Outs &#8211;<br />Allowance Trading &#8212; Companies: Business Stability + Cost &#8212; In<br />Conclusion<br />4. Contracted CO2 Reduction<br />Private companies compete for contracts to lower CO2 emissions<br />.</p>
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