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September 11, 2009

Obama Speech Fact Check

Fact checking President Barack Obama’s health care speech, the Associated Press reports: “The president’s speech to Congress contained a variety of oversimplifications and omissions in laying out what he wants to do about health insurance.” That is an understatement. We counted no less than 15 spurious claims made by the President, including:

1. OBAMA: “There are now more than thirty million American citizens who cannot get coverage.”

THE FACTS: On August 8th, President Obama said: “Reform is obviously essential for the 46 million Americans who don’t have health insurance.” So did 16 million uninsured people just disappear in the span of two months? Not quite. The problem is that the 46 million number was always highly misleading and the new 30 million number isn’t much better. According to an analysis based on the 2007 Census data there were 45.7 million uninsured people in the U.S. in 2007. But 9.3 million of those were non-citizens. Another 6.4 million actually are enrolled in Medicaid but mistakenly tell the Census they have no health insurance. Another 4.3 million are eligible for Medicaid or SCHIP but have not signed up. Another 10 million have no insurance, but also make more than 3X the poverty level. That means only 15.6 million U.S. citizens with incomes below 300% of poverty and that are nor already eligible for taxpayer-subsidized health insurance, are uninsured.

2. OBAMA: “First, if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have health insurance through your job, Medicare, Medicaid, or the VA, nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.”

THE FACTS: First, the statement is just false. According to the America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) 4.5 million Americans are covered by Health Savings Accounts. H.R. 3200 gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services the authority to make such plans illegal. In both the House Energy and Commerce Committee mark up and the House Ways and Means Committee mark up, Republicans offered amendments that would have guaranteed Americans’ right to keep their Health Saving’s account. All of these amendments were defeated by Democrats on their respective committees. These 4.5 million Americans will lose their insurance under Obamacare

Second, Americans should never forget that Obama is a lawyer. Here is how Obama used to issue the same promise: “Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.” See the difference? Obama used to promise that under his plan “you can keep your doctor.” But now Americans are only promised that nothing in the plan “requires you to change what you have.” This is a night and day difference. Obama is correct that nothing in H.R. 3200 requires people to change their insurance. But H.R. 3200 does allow all businesses to shift their employees into the public plan over time. Under a strong public plan 88.1 million people would be shifted from their employer-sponsored coverage to the federal plan.

3. OBAMA: “And insurance companies will be required to cover, with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventive care … That makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives.”

THE FACTS: Preventative care does not save money. So says the Congressional Budget Office and so says the New England Journal of Medicine.

4. OBAMA: “That’s why under my plan, individuals will be required to carry basic health insurance – just as most states require you to carry auto insurance.”

THE FACTS: No states require all adults, let alone all citizens, to carry auto insurance. Only those who choose to exercise their privilege to drive are required to purchase auto insurance. Even with that requirement, many still don’t. According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), a federal individual mandate for health insurance would be unique and unprecedented because it would “impose a duty on individuals as members of society” and would “require people to purchase a specific service that would be heavily regulated” by the government. According to President Barack Obama HHS nominee Dr. Sherry Glied: “Developing a system to promptly identify and penalize scofflaws will take effort and ingenuity, particularly in our diverse and mobile country. It may require a degree of intrusiveness and bureaucracy that some will find unpalatable.”

5. OBAMA: “There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”

THE FACTS: H.R. 3200 does not explicitly pay for health benefits for illegal immigrants. It never has, and no one has ever said that it did. The issue is enforcement and the provisions in H.R. 3200 are completely inadequate to ensure that illegal immigrants do not illegally obtain health care through the bill. In the House Ways and Means mark up of H.R. 3200, Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV) introduced an amendment that would use two citizenship status verification systems, the Income and Eligibility Verification System (IEVS) and Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) programs, to establish an individual’s eligibility to obtain the bill’s proposed affordability credits or enroll in the public insurance option. Both programs are currently used to determine citizenship status and eligibility for other public assistance programs. The Heller amendment failed on a straight party-line vote.

6. OBAMA: “And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up – under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”

THE FACTS: In all four mark-ups of health care legislation (three in the House and one in the Senate), Conservatives have offered amendments that would have specifically prohibited federal funds from being used to cover abortion. None of them passed. Instead, the House Energy and Commerce Committee passed an amendment by Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) that actually requires at least one insurance plan to cover abortion in every geographical region and requires the newly-created public plan to cover all abortion services. Furthermore, President Obama told Planned Parenthood on July17, 2007: “We’re going to set up a public plan that all persons and all women can access if they don’t have health insurance. It will be a plan that will provide all essential services, including reproductive services.” Candidate Obama either was not telling the truth to Planned Parenthood then or President Obama is not telling the truth to the American people now.

7. OBAMA: “They argue that these private companies can’t fairly compete with the government. And they’d be right if taxpayers were subsidizing this public insurance option. But they won’t be. I have insisted that like any private insurance company, the public insurance option would have to be self-sufficient and rely on the premiums it collects.”

THE FACTS: Obama refutes his own argument in the same paragraph: “It would also keep pressure on private insurers to keep their policies affordable and treat their customers better, the same way public colleges and universities provide additional choice and competition to students without in any way inhibiting a vibrant system of private colleges and universities.” No public university is self-sufficient. None of them rely solely on student tuition. All of them require taxpayer subsidies every year.

8. OBAMA: “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits – either now or in the future. Period. And to prove that I’m serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don’t materialize.”

THE FACTS: According to the Congressional Budget Office, not only does H.R. 3200 increase the deficit by $239 billion in just the first ten years, but CBO director Doug Elmendorf told Congress that the bills crafted by House leaders and the Senate health committee “significantly expands the federal responsibility for health care costs.” And according to the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, H.R. 3200 would run a $1,010 billion deficit in the second decade.

9. OBAMA: “Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.”

THE FACTS: The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that Title VI of the House bill dealing with Medicare program integrity will save just $1.3 billion over ten years. That is roughly how much Medicare spends in a single day. CBO estimates ZERO savings from Subtitle F in the House bill that deals with Medicaid program integrity.

10. OBAMA: “This reform will charge insurance companies a fee for their most expensive policies, which will encourage them to provide greater value for the money – an idea which has the support of Democratic and Republican experts. And according to these same experts, this modest change could help hold down the cost of health care for all of us in the long-run.”

THE FACTS: These “fees” are nothing more than taxes hidden behind a thin veil of “fairness” rhetoric. They would actually fall on ordinary Americans, not insurance executives or stockholders. When you buy something that is subject to a sales tax who pays the tax – you or the vendor? Just look at the line “sales tax” on your bill. And if you tax insurance companies the cost is passed through in the same way.

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Comments Author: Conn Carroll
  • charles3000
    The private health insurance system and the health care system are in a mess because of the failures in the private sector. Now this govt of the people need to fix the system fouled up by profit motives that have zero business being in a health care system. Remember too that our current economic downturn was caused by the failures in the private sector AND by insufficient attention by this government of the people, by the people and for the people ...or at least that is what the govt is supposed to be....
  • charles3000
    The number of people without coverage and the number who cannot get coverage should be different. With 46 million without and 30 million who cannot get coverage means 16 million are not even looking for coverage. That sounds very realistic to me.
  • Ondex_15
    Are you sure you are not misinformed or you are informed but just would like to spread misinformation? All you wrote are not the reality of the Health Care Reforms. Republicans and Democrats alike, are greedy enough to accept money from Lobbyists and interest-groups hence there are always two opposing forces - the Pros and the Cons.

    I do not belong to any party, but it seems to me that American Politics is being influenced by selfishness and corruption. Receiving Campaign Money just to run for an office is by far a form of LEGALIZED CORRUPTION. Is this how Democracy works? Politicians accepting bribes cloaked by/in CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS! And yet the American people hate the kind of Politics practiced by the Third World Countries. What's the distiction - one is richer that the others. Moreover, one is getting 6 figures while the other is getting countless zeros and commas.

    All Americans, irregardless of orientation, race or whatever, must wake-up to the truth that we are governed by a bunch of hungry politicians, hungry for power, hungry for money, hungry for everything.

    This is the reason why Health Care Reform is so much of a subject today. Left, right, center, liberals, conservatives, etc..they try to argue who is better "story-tellers" Are they really serious? Health Care Reform is for everybody and not to one particular race. Too much Government? What the heck is this? Don't you people enjoy the benefits of the Postal Service where you can send mails for just $0.42(?), obtain coverage from Medicare and MedicAid, attend State Universities and Colleges, get treatment from VA Hospitals, ride on Bus/Train Transits either on the road or subways, just to name a few. Who do you think run these entities? It is the United States Government, may it be Federal, State or local. Are you blind? There is no such thing as too much government. This group of words has been coined by Cons.

    GOD, PLEASE HELP AMERICA; THE LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!!!
  • Jon Diplock
    Gee, maybe Wilson was right after all.
  • JimCap
    So would it be okay if the total was "only" 10 million American citizens without health care? Or would it only be okay if the total was only 5 million. Or 3 million.

    What number would be okay with The Heritage Foundation?

    Or is the number just a ruse? Are you really only concerned with what your medical/corporate backers tell you to do?
  • Robert Gertz
    "FDR politics" I should hope the President would be so able in this fight.

    No, there are no "death panels". That's blarney.

    "There is one other issue that does not want to forget, especially since I am on Medicare. Where is this $500 billion dollars coming from? I want to see line item by line item were these saving are going to come from and then hold President accountable." If you hate public care, why the devil are you on Medicare? Get off at once and take your chances. No? I didn't think so... and yet you say,

    "President Obama wants for a second term, which the New Health Insurance Reform Act of 2009 and the Cap and Trade both pass, he will be set for a second term. His primary goal is for the Congress to do away with term limits for the Presidency. So it will be “Obama for Life“. (oh, please...Where do you get this nonsense from?)

    It is imperative to stop both these legislations to stop President Obama and his socialistic agenda from a second term. I am counting on you to work and fight hard to make sure this does not happen."

    Ignoring the insane conspiracy...(Though thanks, another crazed ad for why the GOP should never return to power)...You are on Medicare! What are you talking about "socialisitic agendas" for? You are aware that whatever tender concern they now show for the elderly, the goal of the GOP has been to dismantle Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security as "socialistic", "coddling", and granting too much power to government?


    Here's some useful info on the other side of the debate...Surely some of you are rational conservative people who will consider other arguments if they are fact-based just as I am willing to look over the Heritage Foundation's. Though I am finding their facts a bit deficient.


    Side-by-Side Comparison of Major Health Reform Proposals. A handy comparison guide from the Kaiser Family Foundation.http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/healthreform_sbs_full.pdf

    Side-by-Side Comparison of Health Care in U.S. vs. Other Industrialized Nations. From NPR. Read it and weep.http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=110997469



    "The Obama Administration's Options for Health Care Cost Control: Hope Versus Reality" by Theodore Marmor, Jonathan Oberlander, and Joseph White in Annals of Internal Medicine, April 7, 2009. A skeptic's guide to projected cost savings.

    "Health Systems: Improving Performance." This is the 2000 report by the World Health Organization It ranks the world's health care systems. France is no. 1. The U.S. is no. 37. http://www.who.int/whr/2000/en/whr00_en.pdf

    "The Language of Healthcare 2009." The Republican game plan for killing health reform, as outlined to House members in May by Dr. Frank Luntz. ( Luntz has a Ph.D. in political science.) Herr Doktor Luntz's prescription owes some debt to William Kristol's 1993 memo about how to kill Hillarycare. Kristol recently updated the latter, advising Weekly Standard readers: "Kill It, and Start Over."

    You do notice I have a couple of Republican sites included.
  • mark whitaker
    I find that President Obama is disingenuous that what he did in his speech to Congress was repackage the House bill. He put up a lot of smoke and mirrors. As he said in year 2003 that he is committed to a single payer government plan. It might take time but he is not backing away from that.

    He is what I believe his strategy is:

    Let the House bills, which all have the public options and let the Senate come up with a bill that most likely will not have the public option, but are marked up and passed in the House and the Senate. Then they go to conference and in that, conference the public option will be in legislation that is going before the House and Senate for a vote. He will they proceed as FDR did and use the stimulus package which still has over 600 billon dollars to pressure those democrat’s that are not in favor of the “New Health Insurance Reform Act to vote for it. He will go as far as not support them for re-election and in fact in the primary find opponents to run against them. This hard ball Chicago and FDR politics.

    Here are some of things that will be in the final bill sent to President Obama:

    He says you can keep your health insurance plans. What he is really saying is all health insurance plans are going to change, because by law preexisting conditions will be added, portability will be added and if you get sick the health insurance companies cannot drop you.
    Therefore, that original health insurance plan good or bad is going to change. The cost of those plans in my estimation will rise which will move more people to the public options, which we will have warehouse prices and warehouse quality. He also says that you can keep your doctor. Who says the doctor wants to keep you?

    He said that existing laws on abortion would remain, however amendments in the House to include language that explicitly states not to allow abortion through the public options the democrats voted down that an amendment. If in acted the Catholic Hospitals will be forced to perform abortion-on-demand or go out of business.

    The President and the democrats have repeatedly stated that illegals, which are part of the 47 million uninsured will not be covered however, an amendment was put forth in the House to have to verify your social security number it was also voted down by the democrats.

    There are other issued such as allowing health insurance companies to cross state lines, which would increase competition, tort reform it is estimated defensive medicine cost $210 billion dollars, and allow individuals to expense their health costs, which corporation are allowed to do.

    There is one other issue that does not want to forget, especially since I am on Medicare. Where is this $500 billion dollars coming from? I want to see line item by line item were these saving are going to come from and then hold President accountable.

    President Obama wants for a second term, which the New Health Insurance Reform Act of 2009 and the Cap and Trade both pass, he will be set for a second term. His primary goal is for the Congress to do away with term limits for the Presidency. So it will be “Obama for Life“.

    It is imperative to stop both these legislations to stop President Obama and his socialistic agenda from a second term. I am counting on you to work and fight hard to make sure this does not happen.

    Thanks for listening,

    Mark

    972.826.1858
    I recommend a good read: The Innovator’s Prescription, A Disruptive Solution for Health Care by Clayton Christensen, Jerome Grossman, MD (past away) and Jason Hwang, MD
  • johnnoltemd
    What about the "death panel". HR3200 does create an appointed board of bureaucrats that have the authority to determine who gets expensive treatments (like chemo) and who dies.

    And, what about access? There are an inadequate number of primary care physicians today, many will quit if forced to become government employees. Imagine your doctors waiting room looking like the DMV - pick a number and have a seat.............
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