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		<title>By: ryanwoolley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryanwoolley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I oppose the Baucus bill, as it is just as radical and dangerous to the American people as is H.R. 3200.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some of my reasons for this view are as follows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any bill that instigates force on the people or on companies will destroy the God given freedoms we have in this country. The free market, which is what made America the most prosperous country in the world, allows private companies to provide the highest quality and lowest prices on goods and services which makes the goods and services obtainable to anyone willing to be self reliant.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When government regulates a business, costs go up!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When government gets into business, which it has no constitutional right to do, the quality of service goes down; significantly.  If you don&#039;t believe this, just utilize a government service (post office, driver&#039;s license renewal office, etc...) as a regular citizen and then utilize a private company service.  Who gets the job done faster with lower costs and friendlier customer service?  Which do you prefer?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Government bureaucrats &amp; legislators don&#039;t know what it takes to generate revenue with a product or service that consumers want in a way that is fiscally responsible.  Due to this lack of business knowledge, the government&#039;s businesses lose money and then to stay in operation they become subsidized.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All subsidized funds ultimately come from the people.  Those same people that you think you&#039;re helping but because government businesses are not competitive they actually cost more thus leaving less money for the consumer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember your oath of office, protect our constitution and country by saying NO to any bill that redistributes wealth or gives a free ride with my money to someone not willing to work like I do. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember equal opportunity not equal results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oppose the Baucus bill, as it is just as radical and dangerous to the American people as is H.R. 3200.</p>
<p>Some of my reasons for this view are as follows.</p>
<p>Any bill that instigates force on the people or on companies will destroy the God given freedoms we have in this country. The free market, which is what made America the most prosperous country in the world, allows private companies to provide the highest quality and lowest prices on goods and services which makes the goods and services obtainable to anyone willing to be self reliant.   </p>
<p>When government regulates a business, costs go up!  </p>
<p>When government gets into business, which it has no constitutional right to do, the quality of service goes down; significantly.  If you don&#39;t believe this, just utilize a government service (post office, driver&#39;s license renewal office, etc&#8230;) as a regular citizen and then utilize a private company service.  Who gets the job done faster with lower costs and friendlier customer service?  Which do you prefer?</p>
<p>Government bureaucrats &#038; legislators don&#39;t know what it takes to generate revenue with a product or service that consumers want in a way that is fiscally responsible.  Due to this lack of business knowledge, the government&#39;s businesses lose money and then to stay in operation they become subsidized.  </p>
<p>All subsidized funds ultimately come from the people.  Those same people that you think you&#39;re helping but because government businesses are not competitive they actually cost more thus leaving less money for the consumer.</p>
<p>Remember your oath of office, protect our constitution and country by saying NO to any bill that redistributes wealth or gives a free ride with my money to someone not willing to work like I do. </p>
<p>Remember equal opportunity not equal results.</p>
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		<title>By: marymartinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>marymartinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would appreciate an explanation of under what authority the federal government is trying to impose a national health care system, as well as national education system, medical and welfare to noncitizens, and private bankers essentially dictating the welfare of our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would appreciate an explanation of under what authority the federal government is trying to impose a national health care system, as well as national education system, medical and welfare to noncitizens, and private bankers essentially dictating the welfare of our country.</p>
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		<title>By: chuckedmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuckedmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the first place Baucus is an arrogant pampas rude ASS.  Every member of that committee has a right to express their opinion, regardless of their party.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everyone MUST have healthcare, why?  Controller in Chief Hussein says so.  There are MAJOR corporations (GE is one of the main ones) that stand to profit in an extremely large way.  In my opinion, I think we should get the offshore accounts of Obama.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More Reasons:&lt;br&gt;1)	National Electronic Health Record (GE)&lt;br&gt;2)	Tied to IRS&lt;br&gt;3)	Tied to FBI&lt;br&gt;4)	Tied to Police database&lt;br&gt;5)	Any questions on controlling everyone life from womb to tomb.&lt;br&gt;6)	They won’t need the media anymore, because they will control you completely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We the People must do everything possible to stop the Runaway “We The Congress” Express Train</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first place Baucus is an arrogant pampas rude ASS.  Every member of that committee has a right to express their opinion, regardless of their party.</p>
<p>Everyone MUST have healthcare, why?  Controller in Chief Hussein says so.  There are MAJOR corporations (GE is one of the main ones) that stand to profit in an extremely large way.  In my opinion, I think we should get the offshore accounts of Obama.  </p>
<p>More Reasons:<br />1)	National Electronic Health Record (GE)<br />2)	Tied to IRS<br />3)	Tied to FBI<br />4)	Tied to Police database<br />5)	Any questions on controlling everyone life from womb to tomb.<br />6)	They won’t need the media anymore, because they will control you completely.</p>
<p>We the People must do everything possible to stop the Runaway “We The Congress” Express Train</p>
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		<title>By: MikeHihn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeHihn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since Senator Hatch bleated than nonprofit co-ops are another name for a government plan, this issue has seemed as wacky as the Death Panelists or Birthers.  And the same claim here is not at all supported by the arguments provided.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fact is, both parties sabotaged HMOs a quarter century ago.  Democrats mandated Community Rating, which eventully destroyed their 25-30% advantage over third-party insurance.  Republicans said nothing, knowing that Community Rating would destroy severe competition to their benefactors in the insurance industry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So we had one of those &quot;bipartisan&quot; deals again, where both the Democrat and Republican special interests got everything they wanted, and the people got screwed.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another factor may have influenced Democrats.  Nonprofit HMOs, controlled by members, hiring their own doctors, owning their own pharmacies would be MUCH cheaper than a government plan could possibly be (zero claims processing).  See Group Health Co-Op of Puget Sound, with 555,000 members in that modest-sized state.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And why did you read that from me, instead of Republicans?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obviously, I agree with Newt:  If Republicans don&#039;t clean up their act, there will  be a third party in 2012.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile I have just launched a new blog, since today&#039;s Republicans seem unwilling or incapable of defending free markets.  Or even understanding them.  They sit on their butts while liberals say things about pre-existing conditions and &quot;cherry-picking&quot; that are even crazier than Birthers and Death Panels.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.PolticallyHomeless.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.PolticallyHomeless.net&lt;/a&gt; - For those who place Principle over Partisanship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since Senator Hatch bleated than nonprofit co-ops are another name for a government plan, this issue has seemed as wacky as the Death Panelists or Birthers.  And the same claim here is not at all supported by the arguments provided.</p>
<p>Fact is, both parties sabotaged HMOs a quarter century ago.  Democrats mandated Community Rating, which eventully destroyed their 25-30% advantage over third-party insurance.  Republicans said nothing, knowing that Community Rating would destroy severe competition to their benefactors in the insurance industry.</p>
<p>So we had one of those &#8220;bipartisan&#8221; deals again, where both the Democrat and Republican special interests got everything they wanted, and the people got screwed.  </p>
<p>Another factor may have influenced Democrats.  Nonprofit HMOs, controlled by members, hiring their own doctors, owning their own pharmacies would be MUCH cheaper than a government plan could possibly be (zero claims processing).  See Group Health Co-Op of Puget Sound, with 555,000 members in that modest-sized state.  </p>
<p>And why did you read that from me, instead of Republicans?  </p>
<p>Obviously, I agree with Newt:  If Republicans don&#39;t clean up their act, there will  be a third party in 2012.</p>
<p>Meanwhile I have just launched a new blog, since today&#39;s Republicans seem unwilling or incapable of defending free markets.  Or even understanding them.  They sit on their butts while liberals say things about pre-existing conditions and &#8220;cherry-picking&#8221; that are even crazier than Birthers and Death Panels.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.PolticallyHomeless.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.PolticallyHomeless.net</a> &#8211; For those who place Principle over Partisanship.</p>
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		<title>By: klb3141</title>
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		<dc:creator>klb3141</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with all the previous posts... It&#039;s mind boggling that this approach to health care legislation is still even being discussed. It accomplishes none of the stated objectives, and only intensifies the short-comings of our existing system while adding more to the list. By the time the special interests weigh in on what&#039;s included in the federal mandated plan everything from tatoo removal will be included. And, we all know what mandates do... restrict our choice to spend our money in an optimal way. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf/HealthInsuranceMandates2009.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;To test this out I went to &lt;a href=&quot;http://ehealthinsurance.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ehealthinsurance.com&lt;/a&gt; and priced policies in three states and came up with lowest cost options ranging from $165 (FL) to $900+ (MA). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Until we think of health care (insurance, treatments, etc.) as consumer goods, we&#039;ll get nowhere... When I asked how much a procedure cost *before* I authorized it, the doctor&#039;s office didn&#039;t have the foggiest clue what the answer was -- and I was under the distinct impression I was probably the only person who had asked!  Seriously, name another product/service that you purchase without knowing the cost! So, I am adding price transparency to FreeCapitalism&#039;s list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with all the previous posts&#8230; It&#39;s mind boggling that this approach to health care legislation is still even being discussed. It accomplishes none of the stated objectives, and only intensifies the short-comings of our existing system while adding more to the list. By the time the special interests weigh in on what&#39;s included in the federal mandated plan everything from tatoo removal will be included. And, we all know what mandates do&#8230; restrict our choice to spend our money in an optimal way. <a href="http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf/HealthInsuranceMandates2009.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf.." rel="nofollow">http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf..</a>.<br />To test this out I went to <a href="http://ehealthinsurance.com" rel="nofollow">ehealthinsurance.com</a> and priced policies in three states and came up with lowest cost options ranging from $165 (FL) to $900+ (MA). </p>
<p>Until we think of health care (insurance, treatments, etc.) as consumer goods, we&#39;ll get nowhere&#8230; When I asked how much a procedure cost *before* I authorized it, the doctor&#39;s office didn&#39;t have the foggiest clue what the answer was &#8212; and I was under the distinct impression I was probably the only person who had asked!  Seriously, name another product/service that you purchase without knowing the cost! So, I am adding price transparency to FreeCapitalism&#39;s list.</p>
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		<title>By: mlm4353</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlm4353</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your diligence in simplifying the issues and keeping us up to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your diligence in simplifying the issues and keeping us up to date.</p>
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		<title>By: tlewellen12</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlewellen12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply solves the wrong set of problems.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, according to an NPR survey of the uninsured, only when the price of insurance drops to $100 per month do respondents say they would consider purchasing insurance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, we are insuring people using an HMO/PPO method developed by Nixon and Kaiser Permanente.  The idea was workable 40 years ago.  It is simply expensive today.  We insure for everything from a cheap prescription to a heart transplant. Insurance should be for costly health problems, not every health problem. If individuals had to purchase their own insurance few would have the HMO/PPO solution.  It is just too costly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Third, those insured do not place a realistic value on their healthcare because someone else buys it for them.  They have no need to economize.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fourth, there is no incentive to live a healthy life, to have healthy behavior.  Poor health behavior heads to 70 percent of our healthcare problems but insurance companies are prohibited from rating insurance in a sensible way.  In the auto insurance world a safe driver is charged significantly less than a speeder with a DUI.  There is no benefit to the patient who lives a healthy life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fifth, the government is already causing rationing and cost shifting with Medicare and Medicaid.  Why make the problem to poor and micro-management even worse by expanding the government solution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moving government out of the business of nealthcare and opening the market to more inventive and incentive based solutions will reduce healthcare costs significantly and require no new taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply solves the wrong set of problems.</p>
<p>First, according to an NPR survey of the uninsured, only when the price of insurance drops to $100 per month do respondents say they would consider purchasing insurance.</p>
<p>Second, we are insuring people using an HMO/PPO method developed by Nixon and Kaiser Permanente.  The idea was workable 40 years ago.  It is simply expensive today.  We insure for everything from a cheap prescription to a heart transplant. Insurance should be for costly health problems, not every health problem. If individuals had to purchase their own insurance few would have the HMO/PPO solution.  It is just too costly.</p>
<p>Third, those insured do not place a realistic value on their healthcare because someone else buys it for them.  They have no need to economize.</p>
<p>Fourth, there is no incentive to live a healthy life, to have healthy behavior.  Poor health behavior heads to 70 percent of our healthcare problems but insurance companies are prohibited from rating insurance in a sensible way.  In the auto insurance world a safe driver is charged significantly less than a speeder with a DUI.  There is no benefit to the patient who lives a healthy life.</p>
<p>Fifth, the government is already causing rationing and cost shifting with Medicare and Medicaid.  Why make the problem to poor and micro-management even worse by expanding the government solution.</p>
<p>Moving government out of the business of nealthcare and opening the market to more inventive and incentive based solutions will reduce healthcare costs significantly and require no new taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis. One aspect that is not being discussed is the supply side of the insurance and health care markets. Encouraging the influx of 30 million new participants without a) increasing supply, or b) addressing the structural inefficiencies of our present employer-based system that cover 85% of consumers will raise prices and create bottlenecks in both markets.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A free market solution might include: a) opening the insurance market to inter-state contracts to allow greater competition; b) encouraging more doctors to enter the field through tax incentives and tort reform with an objective of raising the doctor:patient ratio to 1:300 from the current 1:400; c) replacing the corporate tax deduction with a personal deduction for health insurance, to encourage personal responsibility and better doctor/patient relationship; and d) issuing vouchers to the poor to participate in the same insurance market open to others (although Milton Friedman&#039;s &#039;negative income tax&#039; is a more attractive approach to replace all Federal and state poverty programs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis. One aspect that is not being discussed is the supply side of the insurance and health care markets. Encouraging the influx of 30 million new participants without a) increasing supply, or b) addressing the structural inefficiencies of our present employer-based system that cover 85% of consumers will raise prices and create bottlenecks in both markets.</p>
<p>A free market solution might include: a) opening the insurance market to inter-state contracts to allow greater competition; b) encouraging more doctors to enter the field through tax incentives and tort reform with an objective of raising the doctor:patient ratio to 1:300 from the current 1:400; c) replacing the corporate tax deduction with a personal deduction for health insurance, to encourage personal responsibility and better doctor/patient relationship; and d) issuing vouchers to the poor to participate in the same insurance market open to others (although Milton Friedman&#39;s &#39;negative income tax&#39; is a more attractive approach to replace all Federal and state poverty programs).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul E Taylor Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul E Taylor Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obamacare will kill Grandma and murder babies too. Something from the  group that wants to save all the animals and a stupid fish that is preventing farmers in CA from farming their land.&lt;br&gt;Time to defeat Obama, Pelosi and Reed, the orginal 3 stooges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamacare will kill Grandma and murder babies too. Something from the  group that wants to save all the animals and a stupid fish that is preventing farmers in CA from farming their land.<br />Time to defeat Obama, Pelosi and Reed, the orginal 3 stooges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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